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......2012 Wayfarer Midwinters some observations by our winner, Trevor Fisher updated: 17 April 2021 at 1132 hrs |
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From:
Trevor Fisher
To: Al Schonborn
Sent: Thursday, February
09, 2012 5:50 AM
Subject: Thanks
Hi Al,
Richard has just
forwarded me some more pics - thanks!
I just wanted to say
thank you again, to you and everyone else in the
Wayfarer Class and at the sailing club in Eustis
who made the event so good and in particular, to
Richard Watterson for putting up with me in the
back of his nice new Mark 4! Without
exception, the North American Wayfarer fleet are
a pretty special group of people.
I am pretty poor at
speaking off the cuff, but really meant all I
said at the prizegiving. Like you, I have
sailed at a few events around the place and
without doubt, the Midwinters was one of the
most well organised, enjoyable events I have
ever sailed at. Richard Johnson summed it
up by saying 'boats, beer and friends'!
The racing was
spectacularly well run, with no waiting around,
good courses, good starts, no unnecessary
postponements or mark changes etc etc.....
The folk in the club - the Lingemans,
the Murtos, Andy Douma and the MC Scow folks and
others were all very welcoming and made the
event what it is.
I repeat my
invitation to all to come to Ireland. We
have space in the house, access to loads of
sailing kit, boats, etc, so all you will need to
bring is yourself!
If I don't manage to
come across for the next Midwinters, I will
definitely see you all (at the Worlds) in
Toronto, but hopefully some of you will manage
to get to this side of the Atlantic before then!
And, it was great to
finally meet you!
Thanks again,
Trevor
From:
Al Schonborn [mailto:uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca]
Sent: 13 February 2012 22:58 To: Trevor Fisher W8848 Hi, Trevor:
Finally got
home last night, after Marc and I decided we would
go home a day early and pass on the LESC club races.
Thanks for the lovely letter which I am asking you
to let me post on our CWA site - and I would also
like to copy (in the next instalment) the
various people you thank/praise. BTW, in my not all
that humble opinion, your off-the-cuff speech was
excellent.
Progress is
being made on the pics editing front for Mids
coverage and I hope to do the results posting as
well as a partial report tonight. Meanwhile, I can't
wait to try out my newly learned techniques at the
northern regattas and I have another question for
you: Do you sail small shifty lakes at all? If so,
does your flat at all costs philosophy apply there
as well?
Now back to
Mids work. Thanks for the invite to Ireland though I
do very much hope that we'll see you at the 2013
Mids and even the 2012 DM (Danish Nats) in late
August.
Best regards,
Uncle Al
(W3854)
PS: Did you
like the pic of you and Bubbles first to
the windward mark alone in the dark skies? I thought
it was great and asked Richard to send it in case
you didn't have it.
From:
Al Schonborn
To: Trevor Fisher
Cc: Butch Minson ;
Trevor Fisher W8848 ; Tony Krauss W864 ; Ted Benedict
W2415 ; Scott Tillema MC2107 & C Scow ; Richard
Watterson W10862 ; Richard Johnson W10139 ; Richard
Hartley W Copyright Holder ; Peter Rahn W286 ; Nick
Seraphinoff W10864 ; Mary Krauss ; Mark Hartley ; Marc
Bennnett W10861 ; Julie Seraphinoff ; Jim Lingeman
W2136 ; Jim & Linda Heffernan W2458/W1066 ; Dotty
and Mike Murto ; Denis Oldham LESC ; Dave Moring ;
Andy Douma W9913 ; Al Schonborn W3854 ; Dave &
Joan Williams
Sent: Wednesday,
February 15, 2012 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: Thanks
Hi again,
Trevor - and all those I have copied:
Great stuff,
Trevor, which inspired me to rush out into the web
and buy the two books you recommended - see below:
Delivery
estimate:
Feb 21 2012 - Mar 7 2012
Will
respond/comment in green below, but first have to
admit I cannot find the coaching materials I thought
I had copied from your computer. If I give you the
secret code to my site FTP, can you (re)send those
to me?
Best regards,
Uncle Al
(W3854)
From:
Trevor Fisher
To: Al Schonborn
Sent: Tuesday, February
14, 2012 4:51 AM
Hi Al,
By all means copy
what I wrote - I am sure I have left out some
important people (you could add Scott Tilema and
the Flying Scot folks to my list!), but it
is through my forgetfulness rather than a
deliberate snub! I have written something
for Linda Heffernan and passed it on to her for
Skimmer, I also wrote a
short piece for Yachts and Yachthing, the
main dinghy magazine in the UK. I did use
one of the pics that I copied from you - I hope
that is ok? One of my (many!) hobby horses
over here is the lack of coverage of the
Wayfarer class in the UK and the failure to blow
our own trumpet. There was never any
mention of Richard and Mark going to the North
Americans, for example... lovely
report, Trevor - one that I have promptly
"stolen" for the Whiffle Web as part
of our Mids coverage (so that it will appear on
our 2012 CWA Yearbook DVD where the link won't
necessarily be enough)
I do sail 'flat at
all costs' except when heeling the boat to steer
(bearing off etc) and when the wind is really
light and I need to heel the boat slightly to
keep the boom to leeward. I could send a
brief page with my thoughts on this if you
want? What I said to a few folks
(and what I think) is that it doesnt matter what
we do in the boats to be more comfortable /
faster / more efficient / happier......but we
need to be able to justify it to
ourselves. This can apply to rig tension,
sheeting angles, adjustable bridles, mast chocks
(think Mike Mac and Ian Porter!), sailing flat
or pretty much anything else....... If we
can reason and justify things for ourselves, we
will be happier and more confident, sailing in a
better frame of mind will be better than doing
sometihng that we cant reason in our own head. I
couldn't agree more, Trevor!!
Sailing flat at all
costs gives the biggest projected aerofoil /
sail area possible, gives us an ideal hull shape
and does not result in any force increasing
displacement. There is an arguement that
heeling gives a hull shape that tends to
'squeeze' the boat to windward, but I dont
agree. To get to this shape, we are
creating a bigger bow wave, requiring more
energy, and there is quite a big force from the
sails towards the sea, increasing
displacement..........Its easier to explain in
diagrams, which I can do if you want!.
definitely
a new trick that this old dog will try this
summer - still trying to figure out how this
will affect my shift-playing on the very small
lakes
I may get to the
midwinters next year, but it is unlikely that I
will make the Danish Nationals.....getting
Denmark from ireland is very expensive,
especially in August. I will be in France
in July, at a wedding with my family, so even
suggesting Denmark to my wife wouldnt go down
well! Rats!! looks like we
won't meet again then until 2013 :(
speaking of which, after Mids coverage is done,
I will set up the 2013 Worlds site which will
start with a poll about course preferences and #
of races desired - Marc Bennett and I decided
that our committee should let each timely entry
vote on these questions: e.g. 7 or 9 races in 5
days of racing? courses: all sausages, all
Olympic triangles or 50/50?
There are a lot of
really good photos - I am sure I have the one
you mention somewhere, but havent had time to go
through all of the pics. have
copied said pic (above) into my on-line
version of this e-mail exchange
All the best, Trevor
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From:
richard watterson
To: Al Schonborn
Cc: Trevor Fisher ; Butch
Minson ; Tony Krauss W864 ; Ted Benedict W2415 ; Scott
Tillema MC2107 & C Scow ; Richard Johnson W10139 ;
Richard Hartley W Copyright Holder ; Peter Rahn W286 ;
Nick Seraphinoff W10864 ; Mary Krauss ; Mark Hartley ;
Marc Bennnett W10861 ; Julie Seraphinoff ; Jim Lingeman
W2136 ; Jim & Linda Heffernan W2458/W1066 ; Dotty
and Mike Murto ; Denis Oldham LESC ; Dave Moring ; Andy
Douma W9913 ; Dave & Joan Williams
Sent: Wednesday, February
15, 2012 2:14 PM
I feel compelled to correct Trevor. Far from "putting up with him..", it was a great experience to sail with him. "Putting up with him.." amounted to him solving in a quick and efficient way the various problems that come up like blocks coming unscrewed from shackle and falling into the floor, spinnaker halyard twisted hopelessly on the forestay and the countless times that I was looking forward obsessing about all the wrong things but he was in the back of the boat handling things while I dawdled. It was as much his ability to stay unruffled and calm as anything else that contributed to our success. Trevor is a great guy and we are lucky to have had his company during midwinters. Richard w |
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From:
Trevor Fisher
To: Al Schonborn
Cc: richard watterson
Sent: Monday, February 20,
2012 6:06 AM
Subject: Mids
pics postings
Hi Al,
The pics look great
on the website......it's always good to look
through pics of events and I will certainly
be pulling some out for a coaching evening I
will be doing in the club here in March!
Richard and I seemed
to sail with a lot of bend in our mast (which
was more than I wanted but probably suited the
windy conditions on in the first 6
races!) - have a look at pic 110s and pic w
on the same page
- way more bend than anyone else! We did
put some chocks in, but didnt have enough,
Richard and I spoke about using a bit of scrap
wood to fill the space, but decided against
it. At least the mast was not
overbent (which would show if there
were big creases from the spreaders down
to the clew) and the mainsail set well. I
did sail with quite a lot of vang, especially on
day 1, so that would explain some of the bend,
although there are pics where there is not
enough vang, such as pic g on Friday
Race
2.3 - way too much twist in the sail and
top batten nowhere near parallel to the
boom. The top tell tale would definitely
have been streaming here! I also had the
jib sheet travellers set as far back as possible
- this happened by mistake: they were set about
4 or 5 notches forward, I tried to adjust
one and it slipped all the way to the back of
the track. This seemed to be fast,
and we pointed higher, so we left it here for
the rest of the event!
Our mast was raked
quite far forward, probably about as far forward
as it should be, so if we had decided to rake it
back a bit, we would have needed to move the jib
travellers forward to maintain the same leech
tension on the jib. We may have gone a bit
better upwind with the mast raked back slightly,
but would have lost out downwind. I am not
so good downwind, so the balance was probably
about right.
I dont see many pics
of me sailing a boat, so am happy to see that
the boat is reasonably flat most of the time
(but there are lots of examples when I dont keep
the boat flat, some at key moments like bearing
off at the windward mark - ha
and hb - definitley not as good as Marc /
Julie and you / Tony in o
and p on the same page - but a bit better
than Nick and Peter, 111y!)
Regards,
Trevor
From:
Al Schonborn
To: Trevor
Fisher
Cc: Butch Minson
; Trevor
Fisher W8848 ; Tony Krauss W864
; Ted Benedict W2415
; Scott Tillema
MC2107 & C Scow ; Richard
Watterson W10862 ; Richard Johnson
W10139 ; Richard
Hartley W Copyright Holder ; Peter
Rahn W286 ; Nick
Seraphinoff W10864 ; Mary Krauss ;
Mark Hartley
; Marc Bennnett
W10861 ; Julie Seraphinoff
; Jim Lingeman W2136
; Jim & Linda
Heffernan W2458/W1066 ; Dotty and Mike
Murto ; Denis Oldham LESC
; Dave Moring
; Andy Douma W9913 ;
Al Schonborn
W3854 ; Dave & Joan
Williams
Sent: Monday, February
20, 2012 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: Mids pics
postings
Hi, Trevor:
What a treat
it is to have someone really putting my efforts in
the pics posting dept to good use. Don't have much
time today since today is Weekly Whiffle
day (after a three-week break!) and I want to
include your observations in this issue.
Just a couple
of points for discussion therefore:
click here
for XL image
All for now.
Best regards,
Uncle Al
(W3854)
From:
Trevor
Fisher
To: Al Schonborn
Cc: Butch Minson ; Tony
Krauss W864 ; Ted Benedict W2415 ; Scott Tillema
MC2107 & C Scow ; Richard Watterson W10862 ;
Richard Johnson W10139 ; Richard Hartley W Copyright
Holder ; Peter Rahn W286 ; Nick Seraphinoff W10864 ;
Mary Krauss ; Mark Hartley ; Marc Bennnett W10861 ;
Julie Seraphinoff ; Jim Lingeman W2136 ; Jim &
Linda Heffernan W2458/W1066 ; Dotty and Mike Murto ;
Denis Oldham LESC ; Dave Moring ; Andy Douma W9913 ;
Dave & Joan Williams
Sent: Monday, February
20, 2012 11:49 AM
Hi, Al,
Our boom was high,
as the mast was raked quite far forward -
right on the limit of what is recommended (I
cant remember the exact distance - 23'
9''?). We were also using Richard's
Evolution Sails which may be cut slightly
differently to other sails. However the
forward mast rake will have the effect of
making the boom appear higher. I
used quite a lot of vang in the wondy weather,
but probably not as much as I would use in my
own boat, with a smaller crew.
I agree with what
you say about jib leech tension - this is
where the streamers on the leech are really
useful. If you think of it crudely, when
the mast is raked forward, it has the same
effect as moving the jib traveller forward,
effectively increasing the 'pull' on the
leech, for the same amount of sheet tension
applied by the crew. Raking the mast back
has the opposite effect - effectively reducing
the 'pull' on the leech, and requiring the
crew to pull the jib in more to obtain the
same jib tension. Mike Mac explains
leech tension really well, in the boat park
and makes the point that 1 inch on the sheet
has a huge effect on the shape of the
jib. Richard was making the same point,
while we were sailing, and did play about with
the sheet tension.
I look forward to
the latest Whiffle!
Trevor
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